Monday, July 04, 2011
Notes on the Tea Party, at GV Fourth of July parade - and short Meckler Q&A
Updated July 5.
At the parade today the Tea Party Patriot folk were out in force - including a Yuba-Sutter County contingent, according to their website - and they did indeed "fill the streets of historic downtown Grass Valley with a sea of red shirts".
I'd gone planning to survey the marchers on the issue of whether corporations should have the legal rights of people, but after just asking a couple of TPPs, it was clear that I didn't come well enough prepared.
(They'd make the point "Corporations can't vote", and I'd say "yes but" (Amend the constitution) and they'd say "well, what rights in particular are you talking about?" and I'd say "uh". Lesson learned: doing a pilot study is wise; and do your homework - which Wikipedia makes easy with its page on corporate personhood - I should have asked whether corps. should have the right to lobby & to exert influence in elections.)
Also, Mark Meckler was present, & I took the opportunities to ask him 3 questions -
1. Should corporations have the legal rights of people? Meckler's answer: Yes, until the people vote otherwise. Me: But what do you think - how would you vote on this issue? Meckler: I can't share my opinion with you, I only speak for the Tea Party & it hasn't taken a stand on this.
2. Do you feel you have the freedom to speak your own views? Meckler: No, because people would take them as Tea Party views.
3. Do you have any idea why both your Tea Party Patriot co-leader Jenny Beth Martin and climate inactivist Dr. Judith Curry should both be from the Atlanta area, & whether there's some connection there? Meckler indicated he didn't know who Curry was, & said he had no idea.
(I felt like something of a pest, approaching him multiple times like this, but if there's another way to ask Qs that gets answers, I'm not aware of it - and would love to know.)
[fatuous evidence of incipient Stockholm Syndrome deleted]
I had a couple of pleasant/civil conversations with Tea Party folk, & am told the places to have more are Penny's Diner in the Fowler Center, and Humpty Dumpty on Nevada City Highway, up from the produce truck.
And folks it's worth doing - even if for no other reasons than to build social bridges & to reveal the more glaring holes in your own knowledge.
I didn't broach the subject of climate change; that's my shirt's job.