"I suspect future generations will call them “climate destroyers” or worse — since if we actually (continue to) listen to them, that pretty much ensures carbon dioxide concentrations will hit catastrophic levels, 700 to 1000, this century, as explained in Part II. But what should we call these people in the meantime, while we still have time to ignore them and save the climate?"
And from last summer, Michael Tobis's Science, Impartial Honesty, Advocacy, Stridency, Idiocy, Dissembling, Lying Through Your Teeth
"If you attack an opinion that is merely misguided as if it were malicious, you come off as arrogant, while if you try to cope with an opinion that is malicious as if it were misguided, you can fall prey to all sorts of polemical gamesmanship."...with an interesting comment speculating about the delayers' strategies.
Romm’s Fairy Tales - Where Cold is Warm
ReplyDeleteby Joseph D’Aleo at ICECAP
In another fable on Climate Progress’s chief alarmist blogger Joseph Romm claims “The climate story of the decade is that the 2000s are on track to be nearly 0.2°C warmer than the 1990s. And that temperature jump is especially worrisome since the 1990s were only 0.14°C warmer than the 1980s (see datasets here). Global warming is accelerating, as predicted.”
Nothing could be farther from the truth. Of course he chooses to use the bogus GHCN/ GISS global data which is contaminated from many factors (see this EPA comment on the data issues with this data set). The issues include global station dropout (6000 to under 2000 with just over 1000 used last month). Most of the dropout occurred after 1990 and most stations that dropped out were rural. There was a tenfold increase in missing monthly data after 1990, requriing infilling of missing month using surrounding months or nearest urban stations. Boith these lead to warm biases. There was a change of instrumentation that Karl of NCDC showed led to a warm bias. After Roger Pielke Sr and others did a survey of stations in eastern Colorado and found the vast majority did not meet government standards including the climate stations, Anthony Watts started a volunteer effort to survey US climate stations in the 1221 USHCN network using the governments own criteria on surfacestations.org. About halfway through that assessment, he has found only 4% have met standards and 69% were poor or very poorly sited. All of these factors introduce a warm bias.
The whole post here, including chart and graphs I could not share with you that supports Joe's critique of Romm's Fairy Tales.
Sorry, the missing link is here, including chart and graphs I could not share with you that supports Joe's critique of Romm's Fairy Tales.
ReplyDeleteRuss, you're afraid to discuss global warming in person (likewise, empirically, for your fellow SESF-er and CABPRO affiliate George Rebane, BTW; I tried again recently), and when I rebutted your posts for an entire month last year it had absolutely zero effect on your views. Insanity would be doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results.
ReplyDeleteI've got work to do, I don't have the time to keep cleaning up after your contrarian disinformation - I'd be doing it until one of us died, since your disinformation sources have the funds and the motivation to crank it out endlessly.
So, no thanks, unless if you're willing to hand over - in person - 50 bucks if I look into this claim and find it's bogus too.
If you don't feel you can stand behind your words and you're afraid to talk face to face, please stay over on your own blog - I want to keep NCFocus a spot for intellectually honest discussion, we've already got places where for engaging in the other kind.
Let me know.
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A comment, on looking back at my month of rebutting Russ Steele's contrarian posts, on his weblog last year - upon reviewing my comments toward the end of the month, they were getting pretty testy, which is not my normal tone.
ReplyDeleteBut when you try to talk to someone for weeks on end - about an issue that's as important as an issue can be - only to find that exactly none of it sinks in, you should expect to experience some frustration too.
Our children's house is burning.