tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5099921.post7472502596722687427..comments2023-05-03T04:30:21.758-07:00Comments on NCFocus: Observation on conservatives and climate - suggestions?Anna Hayneshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15176850465809297298noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5099921.post-59148005281172216222010-01-17T06:22:32.423-08:002010-01-17T06:22:32.423-08:00Have you looked much into Lyn Margulis and symbiog...Have you looked much into Lyn Margulis and symbiogenesis? http://www.isepp.org/Pages/San%20Jose%2004-05/MargulisSaganSJ.html<br /><br />I can lend you her book Acquiring Genomes if you are interested. <br /><br />She is someone I definitely believe is meritorious and I admire her deeply.<br /><br />I don't know what Richard Dawkins, the popular spokesman for mutation driven evolution, is. gzallerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04901213724114743079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5099921.post-14185763587046500852010-01-16T20:57:36.083-08:002010-01-16T20:57:36.083-08:00BTW Greg, I googled
complexity evolution site:sci...BTW Greg, I googled <br /><i>complexity evolution site:scienceblogs.com</i><br />and this page that popped up seems like it'll give you the info you're seeking:<br /><br /><a href="http://scienceblogs.com/loom/2006/10/18/national_geographic_gets_compl.php" rel="nofollow">National Geographic Gets Complex</a><br /><br />p.s. re framing, take care you don't look at a meritocracy and see Anna Hayneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15176850465809297298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5099921.post-6376231079141157142010-01-09T11:34:03.619-08:002010-01-09T11:34:03.619-08:00It isn't easy for me to voice my beliefs in &q...It isn't easy for me to voice my beliefs in "opposition" to "mainstream" science dogma. Of course, I am a nobody compared to the minds who would disagree with me. On the other hand I am not alone and there are many distinguished scientists who also think that mutation driven evolution is impossible. <br /><br /> My views were plainly explained for anyone to debate or gzallerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04901213724114743079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5099921.post-6991698534606883712010-01-08T11:37:02.353-08:002010-01-08T11:37:02.353-08:00I'm curious, Greg, did you watch the video tha...I'm curious, Greg, did you watch the video that Don linked to?<br /><br />One of the things that you learn in grad school is that a whole lot of people know a whole lot more than you do, about almost any topic. And you develop the ability to discern who these people are. It instills humility - and a recognition that one's time is usually better spent in learning than in expounding.<br /Anna Hayneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15176850465809297298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5099921.post-81213512927048316722010-01-07T21:07:12.359-08:002010-01-07T21:07:12.359-08:00The card deck analogy is not accurate unless you a...The card deck analogy is not accurate unless you are talking about breeding or Mendelian adaptation and it does apply there. I am talking about mutation adaptation. This is entirely different. The analogies for that would be changing a connection in your computer cpu or a letter in a book or a DNA code in an organism. The results are virtually always degradation that may or may not result in gzallerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04901213724114743079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5099921.post-40588325043045936642010-01-07T11:04:13.702-08:002010-01-07T11:04:13.702-08:00Greg, I hope you saw Don's post yesterday?
Th...Greg, I hope you saw Don's post yesterday?<br /><br /><a href="http://sierravoices.com/2010/01/the-secrets-of-evolution-are-time-and-death/" rel="nofollow">The Secrets of Evolution are … Time and Death</a><br /><br />And sex.<br />Nature makes new cards, reproduction shuffles the deck, bad hands die out, hands that work better (whether we happen to like them or not - think antibiotic Anna Hayneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15176850465809297298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5099921.post-57470039642885213202010-01-06T07:51:37.245-08:002010-01-06T07:51:37.245-08:00I heard the term "species senility" used...I heard the term "species senility" used by a guest lecturer on paleontology while getting a minor in biology. I've asked the question I asked you many times to many PhD's. No one can reconcile the fact that all species decline against the underlying assumptions of Darwinists.<br /><br />We can agree to disagree but the problem of cherry picking the facts to support our gzallerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04901213724114743079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5099921.post-80012137859619834522010-01-06T00:53:01.465-08:002010-01-06T00:53:01.465-08:00p.s. google "species senility" site:scie...p.s. google "species senility" site:scienceblogs.com<br /><br />Nothing comes up.<br /><br />Agnotology.Anna Hayneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15176850465809297298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5099921.post-6966637617494852262010-01-06T00:50:22.531-08:002010-01-06T00:50:22.531-08:00We'll have to agree to disagree, Greg - I don&...We'll have to agree to disagree, Greg - I don't have the time, it's just not important relative to what we humans need to do, at this time, in order not to doom our children - the children living today, who play in my yard, who come into the coffeehouse, who you see waiting for the bus in the morning. Those children. Real human beings, alive now.<br /><br />AnnaAnna Hayneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15176850465809297298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5099921.post-58458356167185928652010-01-04T21:02:43.424-08:002010-01-04T21:02:43.424-08:00Who said I haven't studied evolution? In any c...Who said I haven't studied evolution? In any case lets agree to not debate based on how much we think we know more than the other. <br /><br />I'm more interested hearing what sources we might agree on as reliable would have to say about my comment,"I believe evolution theory is fatally flawed based on that complex systems cannot improve with random individual variation. Species gzallerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04901213724114743079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5099921.post-43548604457106250032010-01-04T10:13:55.795-08:002010-01-04T10:13:55.795-08:00> Bottom line is that if you can't eat you ...> Bottom line is that if you can't eat you won't be able to do anything about global warming. <br /><br />Agreed, that an ounce of prevention is worth many pounds of cure - climate change is likely to really do a number on agriculture. We need to address it <b>now</b>, while there's still slack in the system - especially since due to lag time we already have another degree or so Anna Hayneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15176850465809297298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5099921.post-64240912933799515252010-01-03T14:03:24.203-08:002010-01-03T14:03:24.203-08:00Anna, If you were starving and I said this is an e...Anna, If you were starving and I said this is an effect of "paleocene-eocene thermal maximum" you would not be interested. Imagine being in the state of acute starvation. Would you be interested in discussing global warming? No one would in such a case. If it was the case that your neighbors were starving, you would be more concerned about them eating you. Civilization would be in gzallerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04901213724114743079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5099921.post-46804439363574719762010-01-03T12:09:08.202-08:002010-01-03T12:09:08.202-08:00> This problem would make global warming look l...> This problem would make global warming look like child's play.<br /><br />um, no. Google "paleocene-eocene thermal maximum", which is something we could be headed for, if we keep on dumping the carbon (which nature had sequestered) from coal into the atmosphere.<br /><br />p.s. re "all sample sizes are one. In fact, that's supposedly how evolution works"<br /><brAnna Hayneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15176850465809297298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5099921.post-83659118969746262042009-12-31T08:42:36.741-08:002009-12-31T08:42:36.741-08:00I think that when it comes down to it, all sample ...I think that when it comes down to it, all sample sizes are one. In fact, that's supposedly how evolution works. Pretty good science there.<br /><br />There may be other areas of convergence but, clearly, there is a huge peak oil problem coming anyone could see. We should all (red-blue, right-left,conservative-liberal) be able to agree on that. Addressing renewable energy from the perspectivegzallerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04901213724114743079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5099921.post-597626446758499122009-12-31T00:18:01.664-08:002009-12-31T00:18:01.664-08:00Further thoughts re Greg's "At this point...Further thoughts re Greg's "At this point in the debate the real problem seems to be how we approach each other rather than the facts" - hey Greg, we don't have to settle for agreeing-to-disagree here, we can borrow a tool from science and do a little experiment; one <a href="http://jeffpelline.wordpress.com/2009/12/04/climategate-shows-how-polarized-we-are-on-global-warming/#Anna Hayneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15176850465809297298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5099921.post-7286797805114995442009-12-30T23:07:52.208-08:002009-12-30T23:07:52.208-08:00> "The saying..."
The other saying b...> "The saying..."<br /><br />The other saying being "it is difficult to convince a man of something if his paycheck depends on his not understanding it."<br /><br />Though it isn't always money; there's also a culture-war thing going on, for the older guys.Anna Hayneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15176850465809297298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5099921.post-19842122961210314532009-12-24T14:03:49.955-08:002009-12-24T14:03:49.955-08:00At this point in the debate the real problem seems...At this point in the debate the real problem seems to be how we approach each other rather than the facts. My experience has been that even with those who have the strongest bias against admitting climate change there is room for agreement if they are approached respectfully. The saying, "A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still," says it all.<br /><br />Greggzallerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04901213724114743079noreply@blogger.com